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		<title>By: Philadelphia Junto: Rethinking the Library &#124; Library Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Junto: Rethinking the Library &#124; Library Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PLA Blog &#8211; &#8220;There’s really no better place for a group to discuss the future of public library facilities and services right now than the city of Philadelphia.&#8221;   Posted in Uncategorized &#124; &#124; Top Of Page [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PLA Blog &#8211; &#8220;There’s really no better place for a group to discuss the future of public library facilities and services right now than the city of Philadelphia.&#8221;   Posted in Uncategorized | | Top Of Page [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/02/philadelphia-junto-rethinking-the-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-3312</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely Chris: this exact model doesn&#039;t work everywhere for everyone. Libraries need diversified service points that address the needs of their immediate communities, not cookie-cutter branded environments. In some locations, a good Outpost facility could be nothing more than a room full of public access computers because that is what THAT community needs. Make sense? I can go into further detail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely Chris: this exact model doesn&#8217;t work everywhere for everyone. Libraries need diversified service points that address the needs of their immediate communities, not cookie-cutter branded environments. In some locations, a good Outpost facility could be nothing more than a room full of public access computers because that is what THAT community needs. Make sense? I can go into further detail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Maltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Maltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if there was a way to tweak this library outpost concept to meet the needs of the truly underserved such as recent immigrants or the working poor. As is, the library outpost seems to appeal mainly to digerati and hipsters in gentrifying areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if there was a way to tweak this library outpost concept to meet the needs of the truly underserved such as recent immigrants or the working poor. As is, the library outpost seems to appeal mainly to digerati and hipsters in gentrifying areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey Mantrone</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/02/philadelphia-junto-rethinking-the-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-3065</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey Mantrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the library supervisor for a Carnegie building in Brooklyn. For the past two years I have seen a steady increase in circulation, library cards and meeting room usage in my building. I deliberately advertised the building&#039;s free wifi. I have designed my own handouts promoting library databases that I felt would appeal the most to my patrons. We have very many patrons who come in just to pick up items (we have a small collection so you really do have to put items on hold) as well as to use our free wifi. I keep asking for a cafe which I think would do well at this location. I live a few blocks from a Carnegie library in Queens with a really nice garden. I&#039;ve never stepped foot in the building but if they set up an outdoor summer cafe I&#039;ll become a regular on weekends.

When I look at my building, I see space that I try to get used as much as possible. There is still alot of wasted space that could be used in a much better fashion. However, I think the building&#039;s main problem was that people didn&#039;t know it existed. The entire staff worked on outreach to the community and promoting the programs and the meeting room space. The more people we bring into the meeting rooms, the more exposure they have to our programs and print and electronic collections. We spent a few months hosting a FEMA van in front of the building and it was great PR for us.

In NYC at least, the landmark regulations pretty much only apply to the exterior of the buildings. Most Carnegies have lots of space and definite aesthetic appeal. People like to sit in pretty buildings which is why the B&amp;N Union Square cafe is always packed. The trick is to be imaginative in its redesign so that none of it is wasted and most of it is open to the public for a myriad of uses. Rethink how you use the space. Even if you can&#039;t rip down walls, rethink how you use every foot. 

The other trick is to get out of the building and promote its services absolutely everywhere and don&#039;t assume that people get everything from online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the library supervisor for a Carnegie building in Brooklyn. For the past two years I have seen a steady increase in circulation, library cards and meeting room usage in my building. I deliberately advertised the building&#8217;s free wifi. I have designed my own handouts promoting library databases that I felt would appeal the most to my patrons. We have very many patrons who come in just to pick up items (we have a small collection so you really do have to put items on hold) as well as to use our free wifi. I keep asking for a cafe which I think would do well at this location. I live a few blocks from a Carnegie library in Queens with a really nice garden. I&#8217;ve never stepped foot in the building but if they set up an outdoor summer cafe I&#8217;ll become a regular on weekends.</p>
<p>When I look at my building, I see space that I try to get used as much as possible. There is still alot of wasted space that could be used in a much better fashion. However, I think the building&#8217;s main problem was that people didn&#8217;t know it existed. The entire staff worked on outreach to the community and promoting the programs and the meeting room space. The more people we bring into the meeting rooms, the more exposure they have to our programs and print and electronic collections. We spent a few months hosting a FEMA van in front of the building and it was great PR for us.</p>
<p>In NYC at least, the landmark regulations pretty much only apply to the exterior of the buildings. Most Carnegies have lots of space and definite aesthetic appeal. People like to sit in pretty buildings which is why the B&amp;N Union Square cafe is always packed. The trick is to be imaginative in its redesign so that none of it is wasted and most of it is open to the public for a myriad of uses. Rethink how you use the space. Even if you can&#8217;t rip down walls, rethink how you use every foot. </p>
<p>The other trick is to get out of the building and promote its services absolutely everywhere and don&#8217;t assume that people get everything from online.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Dougherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Dougherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a very interesting and productive discussion about the current and future need for library services. In a city such as Philadlephia, where 25% live under the poverty level; more than 50% do not have access to computers except at the library; public schools often  DO NOT have books for students or libraries; library patrons will use and need their branch differently depending on many things. Demographics are a big part of differential usage. I would have loved to have been invited to this meeting. Friends of the Freee Library of Philadelphia now has 50 Friends Groups that promote, volunteer and raise money for their branches and is the oldest (founded in since 1973) and most far reaching library stewards, I think I would have learned a lot and been able to offer a patron&#039;s perspecitve. Perhaps I could be included in the next Junta--and by the way-who from the community was there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a very interesting and productive discussion about the current and future need for library services. In a city such as Philadlephia, where 25% live under the poverty level; more than 50% do not have access to computers except at the library; public schools often  DO NOT have books for students or libraries; library patrons will use and need their branch differently depending on many things. Demographics are a big part of differential usage. I would have loved to have been invited to this meeting. Friends of the Freee Library of Philadelphia now has 50 Friends Groups that promote, volunteer and raise money for their branches and is the oldest (founded in since 1973) and most far reaching library stewards, I think I would have learned a lot and been able to offer a patron&#8217;s perspecitve. Perhaps I could be included in the next Junta&#8211;and by the way-who from the community was there?</p>
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		<title>By: Making Public Libraries modern again &#171; Reading on the Subway</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/02/philadelphia-junto-rethinking-the-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-3039</link>
		<dc:creator>Making Public Libraries modern again &#171; Reading on the Subway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] February 8, 2009 &#183; No Comments  Recently a discussion about the future of public libraries took place in Philadelphia, a city that has seen its share of library closures in the past year.  Nate Hill, a colleague of mine from Brooklyn Public Library, moderated the discussion and blogged about it at the PLA blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] February 8, 2009 &middot; No Comments  Recently a discussion about the future of public libraries took place in Philadelphia, a city that has seen its share of library closures in the past year.  Nate Hill, a colleague of mine from Brooklyn Public Library, moderated the discussion and blogged about it at the PLA blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laena</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/02/philadelphia-junto-rethinking-the-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Laena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious about the ways that the Outpost could utilize many of the innovative new bibliographic and interactive tools/models out there. As large beasts by nature, traditional urban public libraries have a hard time incorporating new tools and models. But I think there are ways we can look at libraries as the ultimate open source, crowdsourced spaces. For example, Tim over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarything.com/thingology&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LibraryThing&lt;/a&gt; is able to constantly invent and evolve tools like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarything.com/forlibraries&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LibraryThing for Libraries&lt;/a&gt;, or the project I&#039;m involved in, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarything.com/thingology/2008/07/build-open-shelves-classification.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Open Shelves Classification&lt;/a&gt;. With new models based on &quot;core principles&quot; and innovations to aid us, won&#039;t we be able to easily and efficiently free ourselves from the constraints of a tool-shackled system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious about the ways that the Outpost could utilize many of the innovative new bibliographic and interactive tools/models out there. As large beasts by nature, traditional urban public libraries have a hard time incorporating new tools and models. But I think there are ways we can look at libraries as the ultimate open source, crowdsourced spaces. For example, Tim over at <a href="http://www.librarything.com/thingology" rel="nofollow">LibraryThing</a> is able to constantly invent and evolve tools like <a href="http://www.librarything.com/forlibraries" rel="nofollow">LibraryThing for Libraries</a>, or the project I&#8217;m involved in, the <a href="http://www.librarything.com/thingology/2008/07/build-open-shelves-classification.php" rel="nofollow">Open Shelves Classification</a>. With new models based on &#8220;core principles&#8221; and innovations to aid us, won&#8217;t we be able to easily and efficiently free ourselves from the constraints of a tool-shackled system?</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Hill</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/02/philadelphia-junto-rethinking-the-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right Jonny!  It&#039;d be a location without a browsing collection- all of the browsing happens in the catalog, and then after you find what you want you place a hold on the item.  If you take a look at your library catalog, you&#039;ll see that you already have the option to have materials moved to the branch closest to you for convenient pickup.  The Outpost takes it to the next level- it makes that the ONLY way you could get a book at that pickup point.  Its not the right thing for every user, but its the right thing for many users.  Stats show that placing online holds is incredibly popular across the country...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right Jonny!  It&#8217;d be a location without a browsing collection- all of the browsing happens in the catalog, and then after you find what you want you place a hold on the item.  If you take a look at your library catalog, you&#8217;ll see that you already have the option to have materials moved to the branch closest to you for convenient pickup.  The Outpost takes it to the next level- it makes that the ONLY way you could get a book at that pickup point.  Its not the right thing for every user, but its the right thing for many users.  Stats show that placing online holds is incredibly popular across the country&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love the idea of an outpost library---Just want to clarify something. In your vision of an outpost library, could I pick up a book there that I had ordered online?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love the idea of an outpost library&#8212;Just want to clarify something. In your vision of an outpost library, could I pick up a book there that I had ordered online?</p>
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