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	<title>Comments on: Skateboarding is not a crime at the Mesa Library</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Kendall</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was California Skate Parks that designed/built the park but Dick would know for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was California Skate Parks that designed/built the park but Dick would know for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Kendall</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2951</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Details on skate park design can be gotten from the Los Alamos County Parks and Recreation Department. Parks Division Manager Dick McIntyre, 662-8159 has all your answers.  I can give you my off the cuff answers. The county has liability insurance to cover accidents. Parents are the responsible parties - I don&#039;t believe there is a monitor. I think it cost about half a million (which is a lot).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Details on skate park design can be gotten from the Los Alamos County Parks and Recreation Department. Parks Division Manager Dick McIntyre, 662-8159 has all your answers.  I can give you my off the cuff answers. The county has liability insurance to cover accidents. Parents are the responsible parties &#8211; I don&#8217;t believe there is a monitor. I think it cost about half a million (which is a lot).</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Hill</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2950</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the entirety of Oscar Newman&#039;s Creating Defensible Space on the plane back from Denver, and I just wanted to add that a) I&#039;m pretty sure that the skateboarding piece takes his concepts out of context, and b) I hate Defensible Space more than ever.  Its a great band-aid for failed Corbusier-style modernist housing project mistakes, but its no way to deal with things now.  Expect a follow up post.

I love the conversation going on here, sharing best practices and really looking at the successes, failures and difficulties associated with creating a skatepark at your library.  Thanks Greg and Barbara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the entirety of Oscar Newman&#8217;s Creating Defensible Space on the plane back from Denver, and I just wanted to add that a) I&#8217;m pretty sure that the skateboarding piece takes his concepts out of context, and b) I hate Defensible Space more than ever.  Its a great band-aid for failed Corbusier-style modernist housing project mistakes, but its no way to deal with things now.  Expect a follow up post.</p>
<p>I love the conversation going on here, sharing best practices and really looking at the successes, failures and difficulties associated with creating a skatepark at your library.  Thanks Greg and Barbara.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a workshop at the Mesa Library a few months ago. I found it very interesting. They had alot of kids out there with roller blades, scooters, and adults out there watching the kids. Alot of action going on. I thought it was awesome. Do you have someone watching the kids play?
Or is it the parents responsibility to watch over their kids? I know that alot of them were on their own. We have been wanting to get one going here in Cuba also. Who made it for you? And around how much will it cost to make one as big as yours? Oh, one more question, if someone gets hurt, who is liable? We need to learn all this before we get started.
cubalib2001@yahoo.com  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a workshop at the Mesa Library a few months ago. I found it very interesting. They had alot of kids out there with roller blades, scooters, and adults out there watching the kids. Alot of action going on. I thought it was awesome. Do you have someone watching the kids play?<br />
Or is it the parents responsibility to watch over their kids? I know that alot of them were on their own. We have been wanting to get one going here in Cuba also. Who made it for you? And around how much will it cost to make one as big as yours? Oh, one more question, if someone gets hurt, who is liable? We need to learn all this before we get started.<br />
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		<title>By: Nate Hill</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2918</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg thank you for the clarifications!  Don&#039;t apologize for &#039;using time here&#039;, that is what here is for...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg thank you for the clarifications!  Don&#8217;t apologize for &#8216;using time here&#8217;, that is what here is for&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Kendall</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2908</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two folks that stand out in my mind in the Grass Roots effort to build the Park (which is really what got this Park built) are Elliott Marcille, leader of the Skaters who work hard to get them organized and to get them to attend Council meetings and his mom, Barbara Marcille, who was a big support and printed T-Shirts and Buttons and distributed them at a critical Council meeting that turned the tide. 

Sorry to use time here for this but it&#039;s important to recognize the people who did the heavy lifting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two folks that stand out in my mind in the Grass Roots effort to build the Park (which is really what got this Park built) are Elliott Marcille, leader of the Skaters who work hard to get them organized and to get them to attend Council meetings and his mom, Barbara Marcille, who was a big support and printed T-Shirts and Buttons and distributed them at a critical Council meeting that turned the tide. </p>
<p>Sorry to use time here for this but it&#8217;s important to recognize the people who did the heavy lifting.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Kendall</title>
		<link>http://plablog.org/2009/01/skateboarding-is-not-a-crime-at-the-mesa-library.html/comment-page-1#comment-2907</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Predock embraced the space-creating tendencies of teens and gave them something previously unconsidered: a municipal building that encourages rail slides and coping grinds!...&quot;

Antoine Predock had virtually nothing to do with the Skate Park as far as I am aware. I was a very active supporter of putting the Park in front of Mesa Library but the prime motivators where the Los Alamos Police Chief, Wayne Torpy and the Parks and Recreation Department as well as a huge grass roots effort to make it happen after nearly a decade of promises. My understanding is that the Mesa Public Library Board voted against the project in an advisory vote, but luckily our County Councilors had the wisdom to proceed with this outstanding project.

It was a very contentious struggle to put the park in. Surrounding residents put up great opposition to the location in front of the Library. It seems to have worked out better than anyone could have imagined.

As far as the Library design goes. It was built in the shape of a bird if you look at it from an airplane. The problem with this is that Los Alamos is in restricted airspace because of our Nuclear Lab. 

To me this building took the &quot;buildings as art&quot; concept a bit to far with odd angles and curves. It has turn into somewhat of a maintenance headache for the county as the roof is constantly leaking. On the other hand there is a big curved sweeping view of the Jemez Mountains from inside the Library that is just spectacular.

The building design is still quite controversial among residents of the county, but one thing I believe we are all starting to agree on is that the Skate Park is a nice addition to the area.

Oh, thanks to Google Maps and Google Earth we can now enjoy the main design feature of the building ... hay that building looks like a &quot;Pajarito.&quot;

Thanks for noticing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Predock embraced the space-creating tendencies of teens and gave them something previously unconsidered: a municipal building that encourages rail slides and coping grinds!&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Antoine Predock had virtually nothing to do with the Skate Park as far as I am aware. I was a very active supporter of putting the Park in front of Mesa Library but the prime motivators where the Los Alamos Police Chief, Wayne Torpy and the Parks and Recreation Department as well as a huge grass roots effort to make it happen after nearly a decade of promises. My understanding is that the Mesa Public Library Board voted against the project in an advisory vote, but luckily our County Councilors had the wisdom to proceed with this outstanding project.</p>
<p>It was a very contentious struggle to put the park in. Surrounding residents put up great opposition to the location in front of the Library. It seems to have worked out better than anyone could have imagined.</p>
<p>As far as the Library design goes. It was built in the shape of a bird if you look at it from an airplane. The problem with this is that Los Alamos is in restricted airspace because of our Nuclear Lab. </p>
<p>To me this building took the &#8220;buildings as art&#8221; concept a bit to far with odd angles and curves. It has turn into somewhat of a maintenance headache for the county as the roof is constantly leaking. On the other hand there is a big curved sweeping view of the Jemez Mountains from inside the Library that is just spectacular.</p>
<p>The building design is still quite controversial among residents of the county, but one thing I believe we are all starting to agree on is that the Skate Park is a nice addition to the area.</p>
<p>Oh, thanks to Google Maps and Google Earth we can now enjoy the main design feature of the building &#8230; hay that building looks like a &#8220;Pajarito.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for noticing!</p>
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		<title>By: Awesome Library &#171; Libraries: The Front Line</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awesome Library &#171; Libraries: The Front Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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